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Toronto StarWeb Celebs
Jun. 27, 2006. 11:57 AM
SHAUNA REMPEL
TORONTO STAR
"The Internet can make you famous. Ric Romero has more at 11." If you just drew a blank at the mention of KABC-TV consumer reporter Ric Romero, you've never been to
Fark.com. Then you would know that Romero, he of the sleek moustache and eerie resemblance to anchor Tim Tucker on
The Family Guy, is regularly lampooned on the site for hopelessly out-of-date stories on Web trends, such as a recent one on "the exploding blog community." On Fark, the man is a star. By now, we all know anyone with dial-up can become famous online. As platforms, there's MySpace, YouTube, and as Ric taught us, a whole exploding world of blogs.But, sometimes involuntarily, people already in the public eye morph into a strange hybrid of real-life and online fame. And in doing so, they become bigger stars online than they ever were in their original medium. This creature is called ... The Web Celeb.Along with Ric Romero on Fark, Web celebs include quirky actor Christopher Walken and Wil Wheaton from
Stand By Me and
Star Trek: The Next Generation. Another prominent Web Celeb is '80s action man Chuck Norris, who has been credited with an impressive list of feats in addition to his black belt — such as speaking Braille and counting to infinity, twice. Norris doesn't even work much as an actor these days — but his celebrity is thriving online. While Tom Cruise and others shut down unauthorized fan sites, explains Jennifer Brayton, an assistant professor of sociology at Ryerson University, celebs in the know can use the Net to secure a fan base. For example, she says
Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson has helped ensure that fans of the
LOTR franchise are forever loyal by endorsing and appearing on fan sites. But as Romero knows, the Web Celeb meme is not always positive. For the last eight months or so, whenever Romero does a story involving the Web at his Los Angeles ABC affiliate — a piece highlighting "Google search engine shortcuts," for example — Farkers post a link to his story. Then they tear it apart. Romero has become so well-known online that "Ric Romero" has become a euphemism for, "This is completely and totally obvious to anyone who is conscious more than 20 per cent of their lives.""The celebrity he's gotten is kind of infamy," agrees Drew Curtis, Fark.com founder. "Ric Romero (is) the guy nobody would probably know outside of Los Angeles until recently." Romero really didn't want to talk about his not-so-stellar online reputation (see sidebar). Neither did his bosses, or anyone at the station for that matter. And Curtis says he hasn't heard any feedback — good or bad — from Romero, either. But Ric should know he isn't alone: Plenty of others, whether they like it or not, have gotten a nasty 15 minutes of fame on Fark or in the blogosphere. Not even Norris, who can slam revolving doors, by the way, is immune. His official website's chat room was closed down due to "abuse." As one Farker said, "Everyone is put on Earth for a purpose. Unfortunately, for some of us, it's ending up as fodder for Fark." Curtis knows his baby is sometimes evil. "We've had to be really careful. I've had to warn the guys who help me pick the links about being too mean to anybody with any notoriety because it's always getting back to them now," says the First Farker. But Fark, like the Internet itself, also uses its power for good. A favourite is former
Star Trekker—turned-blogger/online poker player Wheaton, a man who escaped the shadow of his old Wesley Crusher role by kick-starting his career online."These days when people come up to me they tell me they are fans of my writing," he says. "People still talk to me about the movies and the TV shows I've done, but primarily people talk to me about my blog," says Wheaton of his site at
wilwheaton.net.Web Celebs are frequently the not-so-popular celebrity, the ones who appeal to a more selective — and let's admit it, geekier — audience. Just look at Kevin Smith, a.k.a. Silent Bob, who has kept his career growing in part because of his online efforts over at
viewaskew.com. "I think the Internet definitely has star-making potential," says Steve Rubel, senior vice-president of public relations firm Edelman. But "Class-A" celebs don't benefit as much, he explains. Fans of more mainstream stars are also frequently mocked mercilessly online — anyone seriously trying to defend Tom Cruise or Paris Hilton on Fark, for instance, would wind up flamed repeatedly. If there's a common denominator among Web Celebs, it's that there's a lot of online cheering for either unlikely heroes or delightfully oddball ones. Case in point: Walken, an eccentric but consistently employed actor, recently got caught in an online hoax that illustrates just how big he is online. Without any involvement, Walken was campaigning for president of the United States with a website full of platform info and his own campaign manager (the website is still up at
http://www.walkenforpres.com). Walken didn't even know about it until news of the hoax reached his publicist, who promptly issued a release to put a stop to all of it. It could've been a make-or-break event in a lesser celeb's career, but not for the Online Patron Saint of the Cowbell. His publicist Toni Howard summed up the bid: "It was a non-event for him." Rubel says Web Celebs tend to appeal to a smaller, more specialized audience because the Internet is still a medium that not everyone can access. Think
Friday the 13th crew and electro-pop pioneer Thomas Dolby, both happy to be subjects of Fark Photoshop contests. Wheaton is a self-proclaimed geek and a Total Farker himself (Total Fark being an elite status on the site, meaning, yes, it costs money). He says his level of fandom suits him just fine. "I really want the opportunity to do the right kind of acting. What I don't want to have to do is all the celebrity bullshit that seems so important to people."Paid-up Total Farker Tim Shaw says it's all about rolling with the online attention. "Something will get a life on the site and it will become a cliché. And what I found if it's something that's very laudable — like someone like Wil, who appears to be genuinely a very cool guy who doesn't appear to take himself too seriously and was on a very popular show and will participate in stuff like that — then it will go the positive direction."But if it's someone like Ric Romero, then it will go the negative direction."As for Canadian Web Celebs, they're out there: Pam Anderson's numerous online fans aside, Canuck comedian Colin Mochrie has found himself literally the poster boy for a style of animation called animutation. Essentially, a picture of his face is stuck on a cartoon body which then moves around to a soundtrack of pop songs, usually Japanese, usually with incorrect subtitles.A classic is Andrew Kepple's three-part Flash series
Colin Mochrie vs. Jesus H. Christ, found through
http://tmst.twu.net/sluggy/ which Mochrie says is his favourite. "I thought he would make an unlikely and, therefore, lovable hero," Kepple explains in an email, of why he chose Mochrie. "There was absolutely nothing whatsoever about Colin Mochrie that made it seem like he would want to battle against an evil plastic replica of the son of God, Jesus H. Christ. Which is why I decided that those two would make good enemies." Mochrie still seems a bit baffled by the whole thing. But he says a public figure has to expect some image manipulation. "For me, as long as nobody is making fun of my family ... I'm fine with that." says Mochrie, who has his own site at
colinmochrie.com. "It's free publicity," says the former regular on
Whose Line is it Anyway? "I started to get a new audience, young people who had never heard of
Whose Line wondering who this fellow is in these animutations," Mochrie explains. The Web Celeb does have detractors. "Offline media still kicks butt," writes full-time P.R. guy and part-time blogger Rubel, because TV and radio are more accessible and respected by people of all ages. "As (the) generation that grew up with the Web their whole lives hits the 18-34 demo I bet this will change," he writes on
micropersuasion.com. It's true many Web Celebs are usually only popular in a relatively tiny corner of the universe. Much of their appeal comes from in-jokes. "It's often restricted to people using the Internet," says Fritz Holznagel, editor of
Who2.com, an online encyclopedia of celebrities. "It's possible to be very famous among millions of people ... but Joe Microbrew on the street just won't get it," he says. Wheaton says he likes it that way. The Internet in general, and Fark in particular, have been good to him. "It kind of lets me make my own rules, I guess," he says. "Before the acceptance of my blog I would have never been able to go to a literary agent and say, `I've had this really great career as an actor but I'm really interested in writing now,'" says Wheaton, who has penned his memoir,
Just a Geek, and other titles. As for Romero, though, Farkers can only guess what he has to say about their handiwork. Chances are it involves another F-word.
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No. No joke. Paxman was a mess.
Eh, Jazza gave the subject more seriousness than it deserved. Now, Coulter was a mess. Illogical, arrogant, avoided answering the questions with more than sound bites. Honestly, if this is the level of political discourse over there, no wonder America's such a mess.
Now I know that we Americans are backward and we have our quaint old-fashioned beliefs. However, I do have questions about the undeniable, scientifically proven account of the origin of life that you Europeans have discovered and revealed to the world. There are a few things that I just can’t resolve in my unsophisticated, colonial mind about Darwinism. But, I know that you “sons of the Enlightenment” across the pond will be able to illuminate me on these matters. Let’s just start with what’s probably my most basic question. How does Darwinism explain the development of irreducibly complex organs such as the eye, or ear? That is, those organs that if reduced by any one of its components would cease to function as a whole. For instance, the eye. Which of its components evolved first? The retina, rods and cones, or the optic nerve? In the case of the ear, was it the tympanic membrane, cochlea, or the cochlear nerve? I have learned that the twin engines of Darwinism are random mutation and natural selection. That a beneficial mutation gives an organism survival benefits over those of its kind that it will replace through natural selection. Darwinism also tells us that genetic mutations happen on a very small scale and that many would be required over time to build complex evolutionary advances. It’s just the chronology that is puzzling to me. That is if, as regards the eye, one of our ancestors was born with a mutation of light sensitive cells somewhere on its body, how would that have given it survival advantages over those of its kind that didn’t have the mutation? You see, if there wasn’t an optic nerve to carry the sensor information to the brain from these light sensitive cells, what advantage exactly was it that this ancestor had over others in its family? What use could this ancestor have made of the light information being received if it never made it to its brain for processing? How would this mutation have benefited the propagation of this mutant’s offspring, while others of its kind without the mutation died off? This question could be asked of any macrosystem within an animal such as the immune, or blood clotting systems. Just as well, it could be asked at the cellular level. There are so many interdependent components of a cell, that it seems in order to form just a one-celled organism would be impossible. This is just one question I have regarding Darwinism. Since I know that this is science and not just based on mere conjecture, but hard fact; you’ll easily be able to help me put down the challenges of religious idiots like Ann Coulter. I also know that questioning authority is a guiding principle of enlightened people; I see the bumper sticker all the time. For some reason here in America, the obvious answers to the proven facts behind Darwinism are not being communicated to us. It’s probably George W. Bush and his ilk that are keeping the truth from us. To keep us ignorant and pliant so that he and his cronies can hoard the world supply of oil for themselves. Please help by arming us with the necessary ammunition to combat this hatred of science. Sophisticated people such as you Europeans love intellectual debate, so this should be fun. Especially since you have the facts of science on your side. Oh, and when you answer this question, I have many others to follow.
Thanks,
Your friend in the American Theocracy
krimp, if it makes no sense that a creature would have evolved an array of sensing cells without a system to transport information, then assume the system to transport came first. this is what science does. it asks a question, then looks at examples and uses logic to postulate an answer. i am no biologist, and i do not speak for all scientists, but i do have an understanding of what the scientific process is. the reason why science is better than religion is that science has a system which demands constant questioning and revision of held beliefs. you would say that people who hold a darwin-derived belief of the existance of complex life have stopped questioning its validity, and this is simply not true. but it is true that logically some version of evolution makes more sense than any intelligent design theory.
my question to you would be: if we were/are intelligently designed and mutation serves no good purpose, why does spontaneous mutation happen at all?
thanks,
your friend in science
agentzero, thank you for your very civil and thoughtful response.
First off, let me say that with the arguments you’ve listed, you would have made the very point that Ann Coulter has put forth. That is, that Darwinism is far from proven science, and is taken by its adherents on faith. This you did when you asked me to “assume”, for that “is what science does”. It is true that part of the scientific method involves assumption(formulating a hypothesis). But, that is only the first stage. It is followed by gathering observable, empirical, and measurable evidence, subject to the laws of reasoning. Unfortunately for Darwinism, there has been precious little empirical evidence gathered in the more than 150 years since it was popularized. What little evidence that has been gathered in the process can easily be used against it. A priori assumption without the facts is simply faith. Belief in something unproven.
Furthermore, when you requested I “assume” the transport system(optic nerve) came first in the development of the eye, you’re simply playing a shell game. Reversing their chronology does not make the problem for Darwinism go away. You see, what benefit would an optic nerve be to an organism without the useful sensor information of the photosensitive cells? It’s is like having a computer and Ethernet cable without the Internet connection. Useless for observing the outside world. Darwinism contends that random mutations are responsible for evolutionary progress only when they give an advantage to one species member over another. Natural selection will enable this mutant’s offspring to out-populate its non-mutated cousin. In addition, you’ve black-boxed the evolutionary development of the complex optic nerve and its interface to the brain. This is very common among Darwin’s adherents…details are not important.
You stated “science is better than religion”. I concur that “true” science is more trustworthy than religion. Unfortunately for Darwinism, it appears to be more of a religion than “true” science. All assumption(faith), and no empirical evidence. There are growing numbers of scientists who believe its going the way of its predecessor, Spontaneous Generation. Yet, pop culture and the education community are lagging behind. The free thinkers today with the best arguments are questioning the very foundations of Darwinism. Like Gallileo, it takes courage to confront the Church of Darwin. It is very powerful, with its ability to stifle dissent through the awarding of tenure and grants in the scientific community.
You postulated that “logically some version of evolution makes more sense than any intelligent design theory”. Really? Can you give me solid proof you have(empirical evidence) behind this statement? Just give me an example of a very simple system, machine, plant, or animal, that just came into being without the intervention of a designer with intelligence. All technology and inventions require a designer with intelligence to come up with the initial idea and then fabricate and implement that idea. The watch, airplane, automobile, computer…whatever. These are also, by the way, very crude and simple when compared to the human being. Yet, you ask me to believe that these things could be created out of randomly connected events without any guiding intelligence? Where is the logic in that? It has never been observed as far as I know.
Finally, as to your last question, “if we were/are intelligently designed and mutation serves no good purpose, why does spontaneous mutation happen at all?” This is a non sequitur. I’ve never said mutation cannot serve a “good”, or beneficial purpose. Clearly, there are some genetic mutations that are beneficial in the proper environment. For instance, the sickle cell trait helps those in malaria infested regions of the world propagate better than those without it. However, it is devastating to populations outside of malaria prone areas. Natural Selection does take place, no doubt. However, its only ever been observed within a species, never trans-species. Those with or without the sickle cell trait are still humans. Genetic manipulation has been practiced since the beginning of time to breed beneficial characteristics in organisms. Of course, it almost always takes intelligence to breed a beneficial gene pool. Random genetic mutations happen all of the time; most are detrimental. Transmission of genetic material is not perfect. But it’s a great “leap of faith” to think that genetic mutation has brought life to its ultimate form in human beings. My question to you would be…when have you observered a new species created through random mutation without intelligent intervention?
thanks,
your friend in determining the difference between science and faith
To Krimp,
There are valid scientific responses to the 'irreducable complexity' argument. You are unlikely to find them by posting on blogs, as most of us alas, have not spent years of our lives learning about biology. Luckily for us, some people have and as part of the scientific method they publish their results for peer review, and so we can find out about them.
If you genuinely want to know why 'irreducable complexity' is not regarded as a problem for evolution for Scientists then I suggest you do some reading. Here are a few websites to get you started in the right direction, but here has been alot of work on evolution so you could literally spend a lifetime reading all the all the evidence and studies that support it. If you seriously want to study this you would have to start looking at books and scientific journals, not just websites.
http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/icdmyst/ICDmyst.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/04/evolution_of_ic_1.html
Rest assured, scientists have looked into these issues. I suggest rather than putting the rest of your questions here, you take the time to research them and discover the answers are already out there.